Curse

MercenaryKnight · Jun 19, 2009, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Well as you all know RoJ will now cause scatter, and cry of pain is half degen damage which is a lot less and won't stack.

So, now comes the time to start figuring out quicker ways of killing all the monsters.

An idea would be for rojers/cryers to run ice imp for the deep freeze potential. That way they will be slowed and still have to stay in the RoJ aoe longer. There is also the fragility concept which may be a bit harder to pull off depending on the situation.

Anyways here we can brainstorm ideas on how to optimize the vsf run after these nerfs.

Menlai Littiz · Jun 19, 2009, 07:24 AM // 07:24

actually it said "Heroes are more likely to scatter" not sure if this still applies to Mobs... please tell us if anyone has tested?

Apok Omen · Jun 19, 2009, 07:34 AM // 07:34

I heard Deep Freeze + AoE still works!!!! Wasn't that the initial build?

zwei2stein · Jun 19, 2009, 07:35 AM // 07:35

You can still run one cryer, one DF snare and several rojers.

Me/E cryer/snare - Deep Freeze / Fragility / Cry / Accumulated Pain / Fewered Dreams / Hypochondria / Gole

Mo/N Roj/Enfeebling Blood/Signet of Agony/Chilblains/Plague Sendinng
Mo/E Roj/Shell Shock/Blinding Flash
Mo/Me Roj/Signet of Infection/Technobable/Aecho
Mo/Me Roj/ YMLAD / Aecho

Can work.

Perma can that Crystal & Crystal to help out, but that would require Bip necro to power him and make run harder, but that necro can carry conditions, se he will get some use and place of Mo/N rojer.

dusanyu · Jun 19, 2009, 09:32 AM // 09:32

at one time was this not done using Ele aoe skills and meteor shower and Brambles

greyhawk · Jun 19, 2009, 10:45 AM // 10:45

this was easy fast run with any AoE spells before everyone started cry roj, not hard to keep doing

ajc2123 · Jun 19, 2009, 11:13 AM // 11:13

What about SearingFlames....doesnt cuase scatter ^_^

zwei2stein · Jun 19, 2009, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Roj is still better because it is armor ignoring.

However, MS could fit right in now just to keep stuff in AoE, but that can be done on one RoJ

Mo/E Roj, Glyph Of Sacrifice, MS. 12+1+1 smite, 12 fire. just to keep stuff down really.

Mr.Kotte · Jun 19, 2009, 12:04 PM // 12:04

I'm pretty sure it only stated that heroes are more likely to scatter from RoJ - Not enemies.

Dr.Greatshot · Jun 19, 2009, 01:33 PM // 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

I'm pretty sure it only stated that heroes are more likely to scatter from RoJ - Not enemies.

Its the complete opposite heroes will still sit in RoJ and the mobs will scatter.

Gladiator · Jun 19, 2009, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Yup, RoJ definitely scatters mobs. Just tried it - they scatter like hell.

Edit: In UW too, and regardless of the size of the mob.

rkubik · Jun 19, 2009, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Just heard some chat in Umbral about it. I guess Firestorm is the way to go.

Marverick · Jun 19, 2009, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Take a W/E with Dragon Stomp and Stonefist's Insignia? :P

Teknikaali · Jun 19, 2009, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Snow Stormer LFP VSF. Wat.
This time it looks like Thommis is going to get a flu because of cold..

ajc2123 · Jun 19, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56

So searing flames is a no no?

Im sure with the right skills any class can use it, its just that Eles will do it better.

Shayne Hawke · Jun 19, 2009, 09:14 PM // 21:14

I don't know why any of you continue to claim that Heroes were the only ones affected by the AI changes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GW Game Update Notes

The following AI updates apply to Heroes and Hard Mode NPCs.

GhostKairi · Jun 19, 2009, 10:51 PM // 22:51

Glyph Of Renewl+Echo Nuker,
Deep Freezer,
Knock Down,
-Damage-,
-Damage-,
Monk,
Ranger/Rt,
Perma Tank

GG?

MercenaryKnight · Jun 19, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21

I wonder if every damage character just brings ice imps if it will be enough without the need of a glyph of renewal deep freeze elementalist.

Perhaps instead of that you could use the ele skill that will cause knockdown if enemies are moving quicker than normal? Glyph of renewal that with no slow downs and you should be able to keep them perma knocked down.

Could also get the ranger or ritualist to bring earthbind to extend the knockdown period?

Black Metal · Jun 20, 2009, 02:58 AM // 02:58

the main build before RoJ was one sin runner, 2 monks, the rest eles. One ele has deep freeze, all have savannah heat echoed with meteor storm, need a good caller

Hatchet Child · Jun 20, 2009, 10:41 AM // 10:41

Several Cryers and a Fevered Dreams player carrying YMLAD and Finish him.

Several Cryers will get them down to half hp Fevered Pops Finish him. gg